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Post by Pete on Dec 22, 2008 14:12:14 GMT 10
Morgans right. I've seen postering done right, and I've seen it done wrong. When you get it right it can be worth it, absolutely. When you get it wrong, well you've wasted a lot of time.
This is where my hate of Landspeed Music comes from. I've seen them go around the poster boards near their store and pull posters down that have covered their posters. This town is kind of unique in that it does have a few places where it is legal to poster, and it's a shame Landspeed use their location to dictate which posters last.
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Post by declanptjy on Dec 22, 2008 14:13:45 GMT 10
Then why don't we ever poster?!
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Post by unstoppable on Dec 22, 2008 14:16:10 GMT 10
They don't really. If you're printing them for free, that's fine. But if you're paying to get posters printed, don't bother. It's a waste of time and money. Ever heard the saying 'Costs money to make money'?
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Post by declanptjy on Dec 22, 2008 14:32:38 GMT 10
Yeah, that's what we were talking about with how much Adelle's CD cost in the other thread. But my point is that if everyone in each band gets just 10 people to the gig that's roughly 40 per band, and 160 per night. It works much better than posters, in my experience.
Although, if you were a large Canberra band and everyone knew you and you were playing your first gig after a few months of silence and had lots of time to promote, posters would be worthwhile.
But asking friends is the easiest way to go. It's free and easy. Everyone knows so many people, if you just get 10 each to the gig, you'll be set.
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Post by tellmebluntly on Dec 22, 2008 14:34:16 GMT 10
A few valid points.
I actually go to a lot of gigs that I've only seen the poster for. The ones with lots of posters are the ones with the bands who put in the hard yards to even bother with it, so usually you know the gigs going to be decent.
1. It's not worthless, it can actually do some good. 2. I 99% agree with the Networking and WOM point. Where I differ is that it's not EVERYTHING.
Very true.
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Post by unstoppable on Dec 22, 2008 14:35:14 GMT 10
Do you really want to only play to your friends the rest of your life? I find it alot more satisfying when you look at a packed room and reconize maybe 10 faces.
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Post by declanptjy on Dec 22, 2008 14:39:24 GMT 10
I love playing in front of people I know. The people who continue to come, specifically to watch you. I find the experience one of the best things in life. The atmosphere when everyone knows each other and everyone's into it. That's why I love Digbyfest.
And I think you're missing my point again. If everyone in each band invites 10 people THEY KNOW, then there will be a good audience. YOU won't know everyone. You'll know your people, and some other band members people but the members from the bands will invite people that you don't know. So you're still playing in front of other people.
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Post by unstoppable on Dec 22, 2008 14:40:55 GMT 10
Has this plan ever worked? Have you played infront of '160' people?
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Post by declanptjy on Dec 22, 2008 14:43:15 GMT 10
I've never tried to implement the 'plan,' as of yet, it's just a theory. I actually have no idea how many people we've played for (in one show). We played that Adelle gig that had 'just over 100' and I think Digbyfest2 had over 100 too, but who knows how many of them actually watched us?
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Post by morganq on Dec 22, 2008 14:47:20 GMT 10
Fair point. Especially about the effort thing. Seeing a poster up gives the event it's advertising a more official feeling. Like it's not gonna be a piece of shit. And as a few people have said, you're guaranteed to get a few people you've never seen before at your gig.
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Post by declanptjy on Dec 22, 2008 14:49:24 GMT 10
Which purely raises the question, if we're so into postering... why do we never do it?!
I thought it was because we figured it was next to worthless. But we should do a test. We'll do a gig sometime with no postering, just word of mouth. Then 6 months later we'll get the same bands together at the same venue, poster like crazy and see which one turns out better.
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Post by Pete on Dec 22, 2008 14:51:21 GMT 10
so many other factors to consider
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Post by morganq on Dec 22, 2008 14:56:49 GMT 10
I can remember saying that ages ago. It didn't really feel right then. Now it does though. Also, I pray to god that we never end up counting the amount of people at a gig. Let's just always take a gig for what it was and never get into specifics.
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Post by declanptjy on Dec 22, 2008 14:57:17 GMT 10
I still reckon it'd be worth it. There's not enough variables to ruin the experiment, but of course, the results wouldn't be conclusive or definite, just interesting.
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Post by declanptjy on Dec 22, 2008 14:58:28 GMT 10
I can remember saying that ages ago. It didn't really feel right then. Now it does though. Also, I pray to god that we never end up counting the amount of people at a gig. Let's just always take a gig for what it was and never get into specifics. What'd you mean? Every gig we play (that we organise) counts how many people were there when we count up the money. I mean, of course we're not gonna sit there taking a head count.
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